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#1 Chimi

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I guess it could have been worse.  The CHP Officer could have just shot him for not listening.

 

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#2 Splint7438

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Unfortunate. It is the Law enforcements job to secure the accident sight. I know there are rivalrys between FD and PD traditionally. Perhaps there was a history. If he wasn't arrested and there was no prevention of medical care, I say no harm no foul. They can work it out at the annual FD vs PD football game for charity.
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#5 HaloMagic

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He was handcuffed, not arrested.

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#7 Chimi

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He was handcuffed, not arrested.

 

When you're detained by a Police Officer and you're not free to go, you're under arrest.  Whether that be getting pulled over for speeding or being cuffed and placed in the back of a Police car for 30 min like the firefighter was.  You think the Officer put him in the back of the car because he needed a timeout?



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It's not like cops and firefighters work together enough to establish any rapport or basic procedures. This is inevitable.

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Firefighters are immune to the law.



#10 HaloMagic

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When you're detained by a Police Officer and you're not free to go, you're under arrest. Whether that be getting pulled over for speeding or being cuffed and placed in the back of a Police car for 30 min like the firefighter was. You think the Officer put him in the back of the car because he needed a timeout?


A handcuffing is a detention. A detention is not an arrest. In some dictionary definitions, yes. But not according to the legal definition of the terms. They are not the same. A police officer may place an individual in handcuffs following a robbery for his safety while he ascertains what transpired and whether or not the person he detained is the suspect or not. During this time the individual is not under arrest. He is just temporarily restricted from leaving the scene.

#11 Angels N Skins

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HM is right about it being a detention. AAA with a badge


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#12 TobiasFunke

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When you're detained by a Police Officer and you're not free to go, you're under arrest.

You couldn't be more wrong


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#13 HaloMagic

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He goes on to say:

Whether that be getting pulled over for speeding...



WTF? We've all been arrested, I guess.

#14 notti

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I think the real determination if you were arrested is if you got a bologna sandwich or a reheated burrito.

BTW although the CHP has jurisdiction on the highway they were late to the scene and the officer was interrupting rescue services in progress. Much as I hate being stuck in these traffic jams and wish they would open a lane I think the officer over stepped his authority by forcing a non issue. The truck being moved could wait.

#15 LBHalos17

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The lovely 9th Circuit Justices go back-and-forth over their own rulings seemingly every year on what constitutes "arrest."  But at its most basic, you are arrested at detention (depending on circumstances).  Refusal to sign a traffic ticket will sometimes get you booked for resisting/interfering.  Generally, arrest is defined by the mindset of the detainee.  But, we detain people in handcuffs during investigations as well.

 

Anyway, that was a dick-move by the CHP guy.  I'd bet there's some underlying issues out there between the two Departments.  I was a Lifeguard/EMT before I was a copper and my best friend is a Medic for Cal-Fire, so I just try to follow the Golden Rule.

 

We settle our scores on the ice much like FDNY/PD, tho we haven't been challenged by Fire in a couple years.

 

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i would think a police officer has to notify you that you're being arrested. you would then have to be processed. i think you can be detained until they determine they either actually arrest you or let you go.

 

i would think if you're in handcuffs, then they've probably arrested you and said "you're under arrest."


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i would think a police officer has to notify you that you're being arrested. you would then have to be processed. i think you can be detained until they determine they either actually arrest you or let you go.

 

This, I believe cops handcuff people all the time saying, "you're not under arrest, you're just being detained."

 

LBHalos, sound about right?


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Posted Today, 03:50 PM

come on you spurs

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Payback from when the firefighter beat him in a sandrail race in Glamis for a case of coors light


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or pension envy


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I thought the Chippies were the coolest of the bunch. I've been pulled over by the CHP a few times. Off with a warning and a "have a great day" each time. 






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