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The Official Los Angeles Angels Minor League Statlines & Prospects thread

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Chuckster70    8,289

Going forward let's keep former Angels' prospects lines out of this thread to avoid unnecessary banter like the above.

If you want to get in a dig against our current GM or leg hump Ellis and Newcomb do it at BravesWin.com.

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Inside Pitch    5,643

I don't see what Newcomb's age has to do with anything besides having to pay a surcharge to rent a car.

 

Age is relevant to every minor leaguer ever..    The optimal age for AA is 22.  For AAA it's 23.    The optimal age for a guy to break into MLB is 24.   Historically, guys who do well when younger than the optimal age tend to have the greatest amount of success.

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ScottT    1,124

Relevant for top prospect lists?  His earning potential?  We're talking about a guy that is younger than most of the league and has started 34 minor league games.  He isn't exactly in danger of falling behind in the near future.  He needs to throw more strikes. 

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Inside Pitch    5,643

Relevant for top prospect lists?  His earning potential?  We're talking about a guy that is younger than most of the league and has started 34 minor league games.  He isn't exactly in danger of falling behind in the near future.  He needs to throw more strikes. 

 

You asked why age is relevant...  I answered..   You need not rush out to white knight Newcomb -- nobody is attacking him.  

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Inside Pitch    5,643

Who is Alex Blackford?

Great start today in AA, pretty damn good minor league numbers too.

 

ASU guy, I saw they used him as a starter today -- wonder if that's permanent...  they had been using him as a RP.   

 

This is what Sickels had to say about him a little while back.. 

 

Alex Blackford, RHP: 37th round pick this year out of Arizona State as a senior, threw two innings of scoreless relief. Doesn't throw hard, just upper 80s, but kept hitters off balance because he could hit his spots and change speeds. Has a 31/6 K/BB in 26 innings with a 2.81 ERA. Oddly enough, he had problems doing this in college: he posted an ugly 36/24 K/BB in 35 innings for the Sun Devils this spring. Organization pitcher, but useful to have around.

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Dochalo    10,681

Relevant for top prospect lists?  His earning potential?  We're talking about a guy that is younger than most of the league and has started 34 minor league games.  He isn't exactly in danger of falling behind in the near future.  He needs to throw more strikes. 

I said he needs to get things moving a bit and then you insinuated me calling him a bust.  

 

Your point that his age isn't relevant is incorrect in my opinion.  His age is relevant.  It doesn't mean he's a bust though.  At some point, not being able to progress appropriately means something.  

 

He's not there yet, but soon at age 23 and in AA, a guy that can't consistently find the zone starts becoming a discussion.  

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ScottT    1,124

I said he needs to get things moving a bit and then you insinuated me calling him a bust.  

 

Nope.  I didn't.  

 

Stupid.

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Dochalo    10,681

23 in AA = bust.  He's got two months to save his career.

you didn't post this?  must be another ScottT.  

 

 

So, just to be clear, you are saying the age of a player in the minors relative to their level is not important?  

 

For the record, I think he's gonna be very good.  If he were in the halos system still, I would have only mild concern.  

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Dochalo    10,681

A - loss 4-3 

Tanner Lubach - 1-3, hr, 3rib

Grayson Long - 5ip, 4h, 1er, 1bb, 7k.  88-92mph fastball.  can touch 94/95.  Drafted last year in the 3rd round.  6'5" and 230.  Apparently some room to fill out and increase velo.  Out of texas a&m.  Rhed with work in progress offspeed stuff.  changeup is his best secondary pitch and developing slider.  Supposedly has good command.  Interesting about long was that last year he was listed at 200lbs and now he's 230.  Anyone have any idea where his velo was at tonight?  Could be a good sign.  Scotty had him at #6.   

 

A+ - loss 3-2

Ward 1-4

Houchins 1-4, hr (4)

Rhoades 5ip, 5h, 3bb, 4k, 3er

 

Baldoquin didn't play again.  Hurt? 

 

AA loss 6-4 in 12 

Brandon Bayardi 3-6, 2b, hr, 3 rbi

Blackford 5ip, 2h, 0er, 1bb, 6k.  More on blackford - did well as a starter in 2014.  33.2ip, 41k, 2.67era.  no real starts in 2015, but had some long relief appearances.  Missed a lot of bats last season with 73k in 51ip but walked 24 and gave up 59 hits.  

 

AAA win 7-4 (4-0)

Ortega 2-4, 2rbi (hitting .500 so far)

Cunningham 2-4, hr, 3rbi

Bandy 2-4, double, rbi

Cowart 1-3, bb

Skaggs 3ip, 3h, 1er, 2bb, 1k

Guerra and Cotts each with a scoreless appearance.  

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Scotty@AW    3,096

Houchins was an honerable mention on my top prospect list. Athletic 3B with more thump than he's given credit for. He should put up some gaudy numbers in the Cal League, but without refinement, he may not make it all the way. Still young, still time to grow.

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Chuckster70    8,289

Its good to see Houchins doing well after his social media snafu as an 18 year old that nearly wrecked his career.

 

 

What happened?

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Inside Pitch    5,643

What happened?

 

He was 17-18, and played with a bunch of black kids so he used "urban" language as a white guy......    Then was crucified for it.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/nationals-journal/post/zach-houchins-says-he-is-not-a-racist-nervous-about-future-with-the-nationals/2011/06/10/AGdkNyOH_blog.html

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Chuckster70    8,289

Well what's in the past is in the past. I just hope he can continue to do this more often, but on the Angels big league team.

 

 

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Dochalo    10,681

A - walk off win 4-3. 3 in the ninth.  

Zach Weiz, Jared Walsh, Angelo Amendolare and Josh Delph each with two hits

Starter Ronnie Glenn 5ip, 4h, 1er, 3bb, 3k.  22nd round pick out of u penn.  Strong year at Orem in 2015.  3.73era, 41ip, 14bb, 54k.  Don't know much about him.  

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Dochalo    10,681

A+ - win 2-1

Fletcher 1-4 with 2sb

Ward 1-3, rbi, bb

boehm 2-4, 2b

Tyler Carpenter 5ip, 4h, 0er, 2bb, 5k.  25th rounder from Georgia Gwinnett College in 2014.  6'5, 225.  Struggled in A+ last year for half the season but did ok in A.  24 years old.  

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Inside Pitch    5,643

A - walk off win 4-3. 3 in the ninth.  

Zach Weiz, Jared Walsh, Angelo Amendolare and Josh Delph each with two hits

Starter Ronnie Glenn 5ip, 4h, 1er, 3bb, 3k.  22nd round pick out of u penn.  Strong year at Orem in 2015.  3.73era, 41ip, 14bb, 54k.  Don't know much about him.  

 

http://www.scout.com/mlb/angels/story/1618081-prospect-countdown-80-ronnie-glenn

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Dochalo    10,681

AA - loss 1-0.  

Travs got 1 hit.  

Blayne Weller 6ip, 4h, 1er, 0bb, 5k.  26yo that's been in the twins and dbacks system.  Lots of k's and lots of baserunners.  

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Dochalo    10,681

AAA - loss 5-2

Chris Jones 4ip, 5h, 1er, 1bb, 4k.  Acquired for Nat Delgado.  704 minor league innings and a 3.35era but lots of hits and walks with few k's.  Somehow limits damage though.  Probably 9th or 10th on our depth chart.  

Cam 2ip, 2h, 4k

Alburquerque scoreless inning

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