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Angelsjunky    3,746

If memory serves, Adell has really been struggling the last week or so - what an ugly game yesterday was. Marsh also has really cooled off.

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vladdy#27    65
4 hours ago, Angelsjunky said:

If memory serves, Adell has really been struggling the last week or so - what an ugly game yesterday was. Marsh also has really cooled off.

Yup, both are really struggling. Including tonight's 0fers

Adell's last 6 games 2-23 8 K 2 BB, last 4 games 0-16 6 K 2 BB

Marsh's last 5 games 2-18 8 K 2 BB, last 3 games 0-10 5 K 2 BB

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totdprods    2,552

Saturday, August 12th, 2017:
Salt Lake (60-60)
 won 3-1 vs Sacramento (50-69)
Michael Hermosillo: 1-4, 2 K, SB (3)
Ramon Flores: 2-3, R, 2B
Shane Robinson: 2-4, R, HR (2), 3 RBI
Andrew Heaney: 7 IP, 6 H, ER, 2 BB, 2 K, HR  - in 6 rehab starts (27.2 IP), 2.60 ERA, .267 BAA, 1.19 WHIP, 5 BB, 29 K
Deolis Guerra: 2 IP,  K - in 33.1 IP, 1.08 ERA, .155 BAA, 0.69 WHIP, 5 BB, 32 K

Mobile (56-61) won 8-7 vs. Pensacola (61-57)
Brennon Lund: 2-4, 2 R, 2B, HR (1), 2 RBI, K - .419/.424/.548/.973 in first 9 AA games
Matt Thaiss: 0-3, 2 BB, 2 K
Taylor Ward: 0-5, 2 K
Zach Houchins: 3-5, 2 R, 3B, RBI, 2 K
Zach Gibbons: 2-4, R, RBI
Jose Briceno: 2-3, 2 R, 3B, HR (8), 3 RBI
Jake Jewell: 5.1 IP< 6 H, 6 ER, 2 BB, 4 K, 3 HR

Inland Empire (56-63) won 3-2 vs. Rancho Cucamonga (65-54)
Jahmai Jones: 1-5, R, K - 15 game hitting streak
Jack Kruger: 3-4, 2 R, BB
Nate Bertness (2nd A+ Start): 6 IP, 6 H, 2 R, 0 ER, 3 K
Austin Robichaux: 3 IP, 4 K

Burlington (50-67) won 4-2 in 11 innings vs. Peoria (56-61)
Leonardo Rivas: 2-5, 2 R, K
Richard Fecteau: 2-4, RBI, BB, K
Chris Rodriguez: 5 IP, 2 H, 5 K
Justin Kelly: 2 IP, 2 K

Orem (34-13) lost 3-6 to Missoula (22-26)
Brandon Marsh: 0-4, 3 K
Ryan Vega: 1-4, 2B, 3 RBI
Manuel Guzman: 2-4, R, 2B
Cole Duensing: 2 IP, 4 H, 4 ER, 4 BB, 2 K
Luke Lind: 2 IP, H, BB, 2 K

AZL Angels (22-18) lost 3-7 to AZL White Sox (19-19)
Jordon Adell: 0-3, BB, K
Julio Garcia: 2-4, R, 2B, RBI
Rayneldy Rosario: 2-3, 2 RBI
Jerryell Rivera: 1.1 IP, 3 H, 2 ER, BB, 3 K
Tyler Walsh: 1.2 IP, 3 K
Jorge Tavarez: 1 IP, H, 2 K

DSL Angels (25-31) lost 1-3 to DSL Nationals (25-35)
Oliver Carmona (3B): 0-2, 2 BB, K, SB (5)
Luis Diaz (LF): 2-4, R, 2B
Rafael Fortunato: 4 IP, 2 H, R, 0 ER, 2 BB, 3 K
Sadrac Franco: 2 IP,  H, R, 0 ER, BB, 3 K

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Inside Pitch    5,609
35 minutes ago, TroutField said:

What's up with Jo Adell, seems like he hasn't had a hit in weeks. Every game is 0-4 or 0-5 

Nothing is up...   Baseball is hard...    Slumps are a thing.

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GrittyVeterans    201
8 minutes ago, TroutField said:

Jahmai just continues to demolish A+ ball. 

 

Will he start in Mobile next year or will they have him repeat A+ for another half a season? 

No reason for him not to be in AA. The kid is closer to major league ready than many think IMO. I think he'll be a September callup next year. He does everything well

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totdprods    2,552
2 hours ago, TroutField said:

Jahmai just continues to demolish A+ ball. 

 

Will he start in Mobile next year or will they have him repeat A+ for another half a season? 

I think they could do something similar to how they handled Hermosillo this year - have him start in A+ again in '18 but be ready to move him up in an instant if he opens those first few series hot. 

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Angelsjunky    3,746

I would start him in AA next year - give him the full year and then, assuming he does well, give him a September call-up and a chance to win the starting LF job in 2019. Chances are he'll start 2019 in AAA and then reach the majors later in the year, but I think he'll be up for good sometime in 2019.

But Jahmai is on the fast-track now. There's really no reason to start him at A+ next year - he can continue his development in AA, which is a substantial jump from A+ and in many ways the highest talent level in the minors. AA will be the big test, in other words.

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totdprods    2,552

Sunday, August 13th, 2017:
Salt Lake (60-61)
 lost 3-5 to Sacramento (51-69)
Michael Hermosillo: 2-5, 2 R, HR (2), RBI, K
Ramon Flores: 1-3, 3B, RBI, BB, K
Carlos Perez: 2-4, R
Rey Navarro: 3-4
David Fletcher: 2-4
Jose Alvarez: 2 IP, 2 K - at AAA, 10 IP: 0.90 ERA, .194 BAA, 0.90 WHIP, .194 BAA, 2 BB, 8 K

Mobile (56-62) lost 2-11 to Pensacola (62-57)
Brennon Lund: 3-5, R, 2 K -  first 10 games at AA, slashing .444/.447/.556/1.003 - 1 BB, 11 K. Overall, 405 AB, .326/.397/.437/.834
Taylor Ward: 3-4, 2B, BB
Jose Rojas (3B): 2-5, K
Zach Houchins: 3-5, 2B, RBI, K - 2nd half (45 G, 165 AB): slashing .279/.346/.436/.782 with 9 2B, 3B, 5 HR, 30 RBI, 16 BB, 27 K 
Zach Gibbons: 1-4, R, HR (3), RBI - in August (10 G, 42 AB) - .333/.349/.500/.849
Jaime Barria: 4 IP, 3 H, 2 ER, 5 BB, K - scuffling a bit of late, but still solid at AA: 11 GS, 3.34 ERA, .256 BAA, 1.25 WHIP, 14 BB, 45 K

Inland Empire (56-64) lost 3-9 in 10 innings to Rancho Cucamonga (66-54)
Jahmai Jones: 1-4, R, 2 K, SB (6) - 16 game hitting streak
Ryan Clark: 5 IP, 4 H, ER, 3 K - second straight solid start after disastrous 8/1 start (10 ER in 3.1 IP), former 5th round pick ('15, ATL)
Mike Kaelin: 3 IP, 3 K

Burlington (50-68) lost 1-2 in 11 innings to Peoria (57-61)
Leonardo Rivas: 0-5, RBI, K, SB (6)
Jonah Todd: 3-5, 2B, K
Erik Manoah: 5.1 IP, 4 H, ER, 4 K - on the year, 23 G, 20 GS, 104 IP; 3.81 ERA, .231 BAA, 1.38 WHIP, 56 BB, 84 K
Kyle Halbohn: 2 IP, BB, 3 K - plucked from Yankees org, 6'8" RHP - 20.1 IP, 5.31 ERA, .303 BAA, 11 BB, 28 K 
Carlos Salazar: 2 IP, H, 2 BB, 4 K - since joining Burlington, 24 IP, 18 BB, 34 K - .202 BAA, 4.13 ERA

Orem (35-13) won 15-2 vs Missoula (22-27)
Torii Hunter: 1-5, 2 R, 2B, RBI
Brandon Marsh: 4-5, 3 R, 2 2B, RBI, CS (1)
Ryan Vega: 2-4, R, HR (2), 4 RBI,  BB, K
Manuel Guzman: 2-5, BB - 22 years old, still rocking a .377/.474/.548/1.022 slash in 146 AB (27 BB, 15 K)
Spencer Griffin: 3-6, 3 R, 2B, K - 20 years old, in 18 G, 72 AB: .278/.338/.444/.782
Harrison Wenson: 3-5, 2 R, 2 2B, HR (10), 3 RBI, K - 22 years old, in 22 G (82 AB): .366/.466/.817/1.283 - 17 XBH, 13 BB, 17 K.
Franklin Torres: 3-6, R, 2B, 3 RBI - 20 year old IF, slashing .286/.336/.403 with 16 XBH, 16 BB, 23 K in 196 AB
Simon Mathews: 5 IP, 6 H, ER, 2 BB, 3 K
James Ziemba: 2 IP, H, BB, 2 K

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Inside Pitch    5,609
20 hours ago, Stax said:

Jones needs to improve his pitch recognition. He sometimes takes ugly swings.

Yup...   His K rate in High A is ugly -- his walk rate is pretty brutal too..    First taste of the level and all that -- but, his peripherals aren't as good as his triple slash numbers.

Still, it's his age 19 season (20 now), and he's not having the bat knocked out of his hands.

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Chuckster70    8,166
25 minutes ago, GrittyVeterans said:

Taylor Ward has had a very strong season, as much as we have all complained about that draft pick. He's on track to be in the Majors some time next year backing up Maldonado

He certainly has. 

Good OBP and I believe he'll hit for more power down the road. Probably 10-15 a season once he completely fills out.

My question to you all is, how good is his arm strength and accuracy? How well does he work with the pitchers?

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GrittyVeterans    201
22 minutes ago, Chuckster70 said:

He certainly has. 

Good OBP and I believe he'll hit for more power down the road. Probably 10-15 a season once he completely fills out.

My question to you all is, how good is his arm strength and accuracy? How well does he work with the pitchers?

I'm no scout but from what I've seen he's very solid behind the dish. That's certainly not going to hold him back IMO

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I remember hearing when he was drafted his defense was his strongest asset.

If he can hit .250/.350/.400 and provide at or near GG level defense, that is a phenomenal starting catcher. Maybe they knew what they were doing after all with this pick? We'll have to see.

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Dave Saltzer    582
1 hour ago, Chuckster70 said:

He certainly has. 

Good OBP and I believe he'll hit for more power down the road. Probably 10-15 a season once he completely fills out.

My question to you all is, how good is his arm strength and accuracy? How well does he work with the pitchers?

Chuck, 

I've timed him at 1.85 to second once, and consistently in the 1.9 to 1.95 range. Never heard any complaints by any pitchers about him. They like working with him. People have given him some crap from where he was picked and because of Mathis, but he is is own player, and should be evaluated as such. I'm still very high on him as a player. He's not Adell, Jones, or Canning, but he definitely should not be overlooked as a prospect, and is in the 6-10 range, IMHO. 

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Inside Pitch    5,609
2 hours ago, Chuckster70 said:

He certainly has. 

Good OBP and I believe he'll hit for more power down the road. Probably 10-15 a season once he completely fills out.

My question to you all is, how good is his arm strength and accuracy? How well does he work with the pitchers?

There was never any question about his arm strength but there were concerns about how well he moved behind the plate..   He's got his pop time under 2.0 seconds most of the time.... being under 2 secs is a nice but not as important as people would have you believe..   So far he's caught 38% of would be base-stealers in AA...  and 31% in High A...  So he's been decent but nothing to write home about.   All in all, he's doing fine.  Nobody will complain about a 30% CS % if he's putting up a .350 OBP as a catcher.   

Being at AA, I'm guessing he's in line to start working with Jose Molina on the finer points of pitch framing soon...   If he can get that part of the catching game down, keep his CS% over 30% and get on base anywhere close to where he has in the minors he will be considered one of the better Angels catchers in recent history.

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totdprods    2,552
38 minutes ago, Angelsjunky said:

Any chance Harrison Wenson will translate to higher levels? Love that power.

Likely just a result of the environment and his competition, but man those are some gaudy numbers.

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Scotty@AW    3,088
4 hours ago, Chuckster70 said:

He certainly has. 

Good OBP and I believe he'll hit for more power down the road. Probably 10-15 a season once he completely fills out.

My question to you all is, how good is his arm strength and accuracy? How well does he work with the pitchers?

Very athletic, moves very well behind and in front of the plate. Had a ton of trouble blocking balls in the dirt last year, and his handling of the pitching staff and attention to detail were lacking.

It's those subtleties that make Maldonado a great catcher and not just another defensive specialist. That's what they're training Ward to be. As I understand, it's been a process because this isn't who he was coming out of college.

The arm will always play up, but like most catchers, his ability to prevent stolen bases is incumbent on his pitchers holding runners on.

Ultimately, I think Ward will be a solid platoon catcher. If we ignore the round he was drafted in, and the developmental level despite coming out of college (think Cron) most folks would be ecstatic over Ward. As it remains, most are tepid. 

Its hard to get people jazzed about a platoon catcher.

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Scotty@AW    3,088

Also thought I'd pass on what I've seen from Hermosillo since July.  He's using the whole field and is beginning to drive the ball to the opposite field as well.  Before, his power was strictly pull, but now it appears he's making a more concerted effort to drive the ball to right-center.  One thing I'm fairly certain of, which I don't think any of the other sites have caught onto yet, I think Hermosillo's power is going to play up in the majors.  Everyone else lists it as a question mark, but that's just not what I'm seeing at all.  He's very strong, very athletic.  I think we have someone that the rest of the league will wonder where he came from. 

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Dochalo    10,644

I would like to eat a big heap of crow if Taylor Ward becomes an everyday mlb catcher.  Certainly, he's not as good as his AA numbers would suggest (unless he turned a corner in a way that we've rarely seen).  But, right now it's looking like his 2016 was more the aberration.  He's 23 and sporting a .371 obp for his minor league career through AA.  And his peripherals are pretty good.  He hasn't shown a ton of in game power yet, but when he does get a hold of one, it's a no doubter.  At the very least, he's on the radar again.  

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