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Fire Doug White

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We have one of the worst team ERAs in baseball. Why isn’t this board calling for his head yet? I realize he wasn’t given the best hand but very few of our pitchers are having an average year or better. 

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2 minutes ago, PattyD22 said:

Who calls the pitches for this team?  Is it Ausmus?  Or Lucroy?  I’d share equal blame between this person and the person unable to execute the pitch.

But none on the guy whose sole purpose is to coach the pitchers?

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Just now, zenmaster said:

But none on the guy whose sole purpose is to coach the pitchers?

As a fan, I've gone thru many pitching coaches.  I wasn’t fond of Mike Butcher but his staff results were OK.  I actually thought Nagy was going to be a good hire, but I guess that didn’t work out.  Now we have Doug White, who’s resume is terrible and who I know little about.  This pitching staff hasn’t been great for several years now.  Maybe it’s coaching style, I don’t know.  

If at the  end of the year the staff still blows goats, then yes...can his ass.  Not sure how productive a mid season change would be.  That’s all

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Look at the bigger picture. We’ve got a GM getting his first gig after a successful stint with Cashman and the Yankees who is finally going to have a little spending money and a pitching coach getting his chance to be the man. We’ve also got a fresh manager after 19 years. They’re getting to put their plans into action this year. Results haven’t been good but these guys all have pretty good seats to the games. They see the suckage up close. So now they can say that spin rate and four seamers up aren’t the answer. 

On the bright side it’s 75 games in and they haven’t shredded any elbows yet 

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Posted (edited)

Was White Eppler's choice? Is he part of the whole rebuilt "Houston" project?

Perhaps the chicken stew is still simmering?

Let's see if it still smells like ass at the end of the year.

Edited by Fish Oil

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White inherited Skaggs, Heaney, Canning, Suarez, Pena, Harvey and Cahill.

Heaney getting hurt, Pena being about as consistent as the weather outside of So-Cal, and Harvey and Cahill sucking harder than an industrial sized shop-vac are all morning new.

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This is a Phil Regan quote...   Noted old school pitching instructor..   

People want to fire White because they believe he's not impacting the pitchers -- at the same time the Angels minor league pitching has taken a HUGE step forward this year employing the same exact systems..    Maybe it's just a case of you can't teach an old dog new tricks, or maybe we just picked up really dumb dogs..  But I have a hard time putting a tired RP corps on Doug White and IMO Harvey and Cahill fall at Eppler's feet.

I'm obviously no smarter than any of you guys, but watching LuCroy, I hate how he sets up and how he calls games -- I know he supposedly did wonders with the A's staff but like Doc, there have been way too many times where I've been able to predict what he would call and where the pitch would be...  Can't imagine MLB players arent finding it even easier to see the patterns.

For now I trust the process and have my doubts about the personnel (players)

 

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38 minutes ago, Inside Pitch said:

I'm obviously no smarter than any of you guys, but watching LuCroy, I hate how he sets up and how he calls games -- I know he supposedly did wonders with the A's staff but like Doc, there have been way too many times where I've been able to predict what he would call and where the pitch would be...  Can't imagine MLB players arent finding it even easier to see the patterns.

Ive been on the 'fire Lucroy' bandwagon since about week two, but Im only now linking my rage at terrible home plate umpiring with Lucroy being behind the dish...

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